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Erdogan demands Turks exchange their Dollars to Gold, Lira
Dec 2, 2016

Early this morning, in yet another session of panicked selling, the Turkish Lira crashed to new record lows to just shy of USDTRY 3.60, momentarily going bidless as the currency plunged nearly 400 pips in seconds, after Turkish President Recep Erdogan said the path for investors will be opened with lower interest rates, and urged the central bank to imitate Japan and U.S. where rates are low: “why should we go around with 14-15 percent?”

The answer is simple: the currency tends to drop when an economy is seen as weak, the political regime unstable, or - yes - a central bank cuts rates, which Turkey, as shown in the chart below, can not afford if it hopes to maintain a stable economy with the lira already at all time lows.

Normally, any other country would find itself in a dilemma: how to lower rates as per the president's demands to stimulate investment and the economy, without killing the economy... but not Erdogan. As AFP notes, the Turkish president "urged" his fellow Turks on Friday to convert their foreign currencies into gold and lira to stimulate the country's economy as the lira continued its slide against the dollar.

"For those who have foreign currencies under the pillow, come change this to gold, come change this to Turkish lira. Let the lira win greater value. Let gold win greater value," he said during a televised speech in Ankara.

It was not exactly clear how a few thousand Turks exchange lira for gold would "let gold win greater value", nor how the same number of locals converting their dollars to lira would withstand another selling onslaught as soon the the Turkish central bank cut rates again, but that's not really relevant for the Turkish president, who appears to have a far better understanding of how to wage "failed coups" than simple finance.

"What necessity is there to let foreign currency have greater value?" he asked.

There was no answer, but as he was speaking, the lira lost value against the US dollar, crashing just shy of 3.60. After his address, it stage a modest rebound at 3.55 against the greenback, a loss of over 1.5% on the day. In November alone, the lira has lost more than 10% against the dollar, and December was not starting off on the right foot either.

And no, he wasn't joking: as Hurriyet reported moments ago, Turkey’s main stock exchange, Borsa Istanbul, became the first institution to convert all of its cash assets into the Turkish Lira a few hours after President Recep Tayyip Erdo? an called on people and institutions to back the struggling currency against the U.S. dollar. Borsa Istanbul said in a written statement on Dec. 2 that it would convert all of its cash assets into lira and keep them in lira accounts.

Erdogan also warned that there were forces "playing games" against Turkey, which Turks could counter by changing their money. He did not say whom he was referring to. "Don't worry, in a short while, we will destroy this game", clearly referring to "evil speculators" who could be destroyed if only mom and pop exchanged the dollars in their mattress for the local currency.

As noted above, the Lira was also reacting to Erdogan's repeated insistence on lowering interest rates because, he claims, there is "no other remedy". He referred to the United States, Japan and Europe as examples of where rates are low and questioned why Turkey still had such high rates.

In a surprise to some, after several months of rate cuts, the central bank stepped in with an unexpected hike of 50 basis points in its leading rate last month. This prompted many to wonder how long Erdogan will tolerate the insolence of his central banker who clearly has defied his decree.

To be sure, concerns over Turkey's political instability, including the government's race to expand Erdogan's powers, as well as its cracking relationship with the European Union meant a rally in the lira was shortlived after the bank's announcement.

Worries over Erdogan's influence grew after Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said on Thursday the government would bring a bill to parliament next week which proposes to change the constitution and give greater powers to the president. Considering Erdogan's track record, it is only a matter of time before he appoints himself central bank head too, at which point the Turkish Lira and the Venezuela Bolivar will begin a race which one can reach a value of 0 faster.

Incidentally, anyone who does convert their dollars into gold can simultaneously start a countdown how long it will take for the "authorities" to come knocking and confiscate said gold.

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bonne nouvelle :D
La Turquie c'était un acteur de poids du marché de l'or (100T/an?) ... le marché va s'accroitre encore.

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"Pour ceux qui ont des devises étrangères sous le matelas, venez les changer en or, venez les changer en livres turques pour que la livre gagne une plus grande valeur."
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ceux qui convertiraient leurs dollars en or peuvent simultanément commencer un compte à rebours sur le temps qu'il faudra pour que les «autorités» viennent frapper et confisquer ledit or
Résultat : chute de 1,5 de la livre en une journée.


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"Pour ceux qui ont des devises étrangères sous le matelas, venez les changer en or, venez les changer en livres turques pour que la livre gagne une plus grande valeur."
...............
ceux qui convertiraient leurs dollars en or peuvent simultanément commencer un compte à rebours sur le temps qu'il faudra pour que les «autorités» viennent frapper et confisquer ledit or
Résultat : chute de 1,5 de la livre en une journée.

Amha, beaucoup de turc son pro-erdogana (patriote?) et disposé à le suivre dans cette demande. Mais ceux-ci forment également la partie "pauvre" et rurale de la population donc il est peu vraisemblable qu'ils aient des masses de devises.

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